Saturday, February 9, 2008

12 or 20 questions: with Rita Donovan

Rita Donovan: Born in Montreal, lives in Ottawa. Has also lived in Edmonton, Germany and Kitchener. Graduate of Concordia University and the University of Alberta. For many years co-editor of Arc: Canada’s National Poetry Magazine, with John Barton [see his 12 or 20 questions here]. Has taught or given seminars in Edmonton, Yellowknife, Rankin Inlet, Iqaluit, Montreal and Ottawa. Has taught in literacy projects in shopping malls, in community centers and on the street. Other interests include cooking, hiking and, inevitably, reading.

Author of seven books, six of them novels. Novel Dark Jewels was first-runner up for the W.S. Smith/Books in Canada First Novel Award, and won the Ottawa-Carleton Book Award. Novel Daisy Circus won the Ottawa-Carleton Book Award. Landed won the CAA/Chapters Award for Fiction and was shortlisted for the Ottawa Book Award. The Plague Saint was nominated for the James Tiptree Award. River Sky Summer is a young adult novel, and As for the Canadians is a book of historical non-fiction. Latest novel, just published, is Short Candles (Napoleon & Company, 2007.)

1. How much did your first book change your life?

I don't think it changed my entire life, but the publication of Dark Jewels, my first novel, was the kind of validating experience that made sense of the choices I'd made, that all writers make. It was also a relief, as it had been slated for publication a few years earlier, by a press that ran into financial difficulties and pulled out, so I was very pleased when Ragweed published it. The book was up for a national award and won the city writing award so I hope I justified Ragweed's faith in the book.

2. How long have you lived in Ottawa, and how does geography, if at all, impact on your writing? Do race and gender make any impact on your work?

I've lived in Ottawa since about 1985, with one year away in between. I'm from Montreal originally, and I've also lived in Edmonton, in Germany and in Kitchener. Ottawa, though, has been my home for a long time now, and my daughter was born here fifteen years ago. That is what really made a difference. This is her hometown, as Montreal is mine. So we are very attached to the place now.

Where we come from hugely influences how we see not only our immediate surroundings, but how we view the world. "Place" is a character in several of my books. Dark Jewels takes place in Sydney, Cape Breton, during the miners' and steelworkers' strikes of the 1920s. The place and circumstances are essentials of the story. Daisy Circus takes place in Ottawa and in the Cambridge, Massachusetts of the poet e.e. cummings. Landed takes place in Minnesota and in Ottawa, and the actual boundaries of the countries are crucial to the story. The Plague Saint, a speculative-fiction novel, is set in seventeenth-century Florence, and in later twenty-first-century Canada. My latest novel, Short Candles is set in a nameless city that is probably Ottawa. So "place" is very important to me.
Gender and race are significant because they are significant to my characters. I always write from character first, so the issues of gender and race play through my characters (and where I put them in time and place) in the same way that these things influence for all of us.

3. Where does a piece of fiction usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?

I've written short fiction but my preferred medium is the novel, so I guess there is always the potential of the scope of a novel from the moment a character comes to me. I see and hear the character(s). I probably have an idea of the overriding theme, or of an event that gets the thing going, but it is the character, primarily, that informs me. I often have a couple of clear images or scenes that take place later in the book, but I don't know how I will get to them until I begin writing. I've used the phrases "falling into a book" or "falling into a world" to describe the sensation. It is a big commitment, but surprisingly easily to trip headlong into….

4. Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process?

It's different for novelists than for poets or short story writers. Usually one is reading from a recently published novel. Given the length of the project, it is something that was probably written a couple of years before. Not the same as reading something that was written the previous week.

This also means most novelists are well into a new project (a new world) by the time they are doing readings of the so-called "current" one. All that said, reading along is a great experience. It is nice and less schizophrenic to hear the voices out loud ("oh, you hear that, too?") and it is also a way to connect with the characters away from the page. And, of course, it is a chance to connect with the audience. In this way it does feed the creative atmosphere one needs when writing.

5. Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

I think all writers are dealing with the really big questions. The fact that we write at all means we have concerns, observations, remedies? Well, not remedies, maybe. But I think writers care about the world they live in, and about their spiritual and intellectual place in it. They devote a good deal of energy and years trying to show us how the world "is", and how it could be.
My latest novel, Short Candles, concerns itself with whether we can offer our true selves to the world, and about the cost of belonging to it. And the new book I'm writing right now is about the chinks in memory, both personal and collective, and the ways in which we will be remembered, if at all.

Oh, and I told someone once that all of my books are about life, which they are.

6. Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

Both. And it depends on the editor, of course. Their job is often unenviable on a daily basis, but whether I agree or disagree on a certain point, I am aware that we have the same goal, and that helps.

7. After having published more than a couple of titles over the years, do you find the process of book-making harder or easier?

Harder or easier? I don't know. Perhaps it is a bit easier in the sense that I know that there will be another book, another story, to come. The first book or two felt so final, as if I'd never write again. Over the years you come to trust that the well will refill.

8. When was the last time you ate a pear?

Hah! A couple of days ago, actually. And I walk by this pear tree near my house. It is sleeping beneath a dense snow blanket right now, and it reminds me of the trees in Oscar Wilde's "A Selfish Giant." I keep hoping it will burst into bloom.

9. What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly.)

My British grandmother used to say, "Pay attention, why don't you? You could burn water."

10. How easy has it been for you to move between genres (fiction to non-fiction)? What do you see as the appeal?

I like creative non-fiction and find that an easy shift from fiction. Regular non-fiction is more of a challenge. But any time you move into another area you stretch yourself and learn new things. I'd like to write a play.

11. What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?

Ideal day: get up, get people out of the way, drink coffee, write.

Real day: get up, people won't get out of the way, drink coffee, try to write.

Before my daughter was born I had a home office and a rented writing studio. Once she came along I had to give up the studio ($$) and my home office was turned into her bedroom. Since then I have begged writing space from friends, I've used study rooms at the National Library (a luxury now discontinued by the library) and, currently, I am using the basement office of a nearby church. So. It is:

Get up, people out, get coffee, walk to church basement and write. (No phone there. No computer either, just me an my writing pad.)

12. When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

I read a lot of poetry. I also suggest to my writing students that they read poetry if they write fiction.

13. How does your most recent book compare to your previous work? How does it feel different?

This goes back to the 'questions writers ask.' I am continuing to explore the ideas of family (the definition of which shifts depending on the book), the idea of 'home' (as place and as character.) In this particular book, I am looking at 'memory.' The book is told in two different parallel timelines, one in 19th century Britain and Australia and one in present-day Canada.

14. David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

Books do come from books, but hopefully from many other things as well. Art, music and technology inform a lot of what I currently experience. I'm very interested in technology and literature and I am pursuing that study. And I live in a city with wonderful galleries, museums, etc., as well as excellent drama and music series and venues. I make use of these resources and am grateful for them. But I think the question also reminds me of something a French writer noted once (I have tried to remember who it is, with no luck. Mallarmé? Damn.) He maintained that he was a citizen as well as a writer. And there is that comment by the Swedish poet Tomas Tranströmer, who made his living as a psychologist. When asked how his work as a psychologist informed his poetry, he responded (I'm doing this from memory, here) with the comment that he wondered why no one ever asked him how his poetry informed his work as a psychologist? All by way of saying that, hopefully, we are creatures that embrace and enfold experience and combine it with our own particular gifts to create something irreducible and unique. I like it best when we can't figure out how something came into being. It seems much more wonderful than to say, "Well, I was reading Lewis Carroll, and this idea for a book about rabbits just popped into mind." (Hopped?)

15. What other writers or writings are important to your work, or simply your life outside of your work?

So many. Too many. My reading is not as disciplined as it once was. That is, the focus is wider, probably a sign of expanding interests as well as the general disjointed quality of my daily life. I try to keep up on the books by friends, and I read from among the new international titles (sadly, not all of them.) I have old favourites like Faulkner, Wilde. I am planning on rereading Hawthorne and Dickens. And I will read Donne and cummings again. Oh, and since my daughter is studying them, Virgil and Shakespeare.

16. What would you like to do that you haven't done yet?

Funny. This could either be an enormous list, or a very short one, as I am a pretty content person. Some of the things I'd like to do I would like to do in a different time. Hike the Rockies again, but back when it was less developed. I'd like to walk through London about a hundred and fifty years ago. I'd like to take one of those commercial flights into outer space, but I'm a bit claustrophobic. I'd like to be on the boat that sailed from Ireland in 1847 with my five-year-old great-grandmother on it. Or the other boat, with my Polish relatives. Or the other one, with my British family. In the here and now? I have a couple of non-profit projects I'd like to work on.

17. If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

Most writers have already done a lot of the "other things" in order to write. I have enjoyed some of those things. Currently I teach, and it can be rewarding. But, as I always knew I would be a writer I didn't really want anything else. I could envision any number of other careers for myself, but after five minutes or so, I'd start daydreaming about what my desk would look like, or my clothes, or what I would say when "she" answered the phone. Before I knew it "I" would be in 3rd person, with another name, a better haircut, and a character in my own story.
I have a lot of other interests. I was very interested in film and could have pursued that. I also loved languages and Classics and could have seen myself doing something with that (asking people if they want fries with that in Latin.)

18. What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

I always wrote. My dad was a writer. My uncle was a writer. A couple of my aunts wrote as well. My cousin is a writer. We're a dime a dozen.

19. What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?

"Great" is always subjective. I have been doing research lately, so the books are mostly texts of various sorts (not that they aren't good!) But for pleasure I recently read Don Coles' A Dropped Glove in Regent Street, a lovely collection of autobiography, essays and criticism. Thoroughly enjoyable. Films? I love film. Don't get out as often as I might, but my friend Cheryl just gave me a pass for the Bytowne Cinema so I hope that will be the excuse I need to get to more films. I did see the low-budget, big-hearted Irish film, Once recently and loved it. I also saw an old favorite, The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner (which , for film buffs, is Tom Courtenay's film debut.)

20. What are you currently working on?

Ah, the aforementioned new novel. It's really in process at the moment so I can't say much about it. I'm still getting used to the fact that Short Candles is out, as well. I guess the key. Here, is that writers are always "working on" something. Far cry from the bon-bon-eating, stuffed-pillow reclining activity I'd been led to believe.

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Friday, February 8, 2008

12 or 20 questions: with Katherine Govier

Katherine Govier is an award winning novelist with a special interest in historical figures who are artists. Her novel, Creation, about John James Audubon in Labrador, was a New York Times Notable Book of the Year in 2003. Her fiction and non fiction has appeared in the United Kingdom, Canada, the United States, the Commonwealth and in translation in Holland, Italy, Turkey, and Slovenia. She is the winner of Canada's Marian Engel Award for a woman writer in mid-career (1997), and the Toronto Book Award (1992).

She is the author of 8 novels and 3 short story collections and the editor of two collections of travel essays.

Katherine has been a visiting lecturer in both Creative Writing and Magazine Journalism at York University (Toronto), Ryerson Polytechnical University, (Toronto), and The University of Leeds (Leeds, England).

Katherine has been instrumental in establishing two innovative writing programs. In 1989, with teacher Trevor Owen, she founded Writers in Electronic Residence, a national online writing program connecting Canadian writers in their homes to high school students in classrooms across Canada from Newfoundland to the Arctic to Vancouver Island. Since 2004 she has been on the Program Advisory Committee for the post-degree certificate program, Canadian Journalism for Internationally Trained Writers, at Sheridan College, Oakville, Ontario. a post-degree certificate for immigrant, refugee or exiled writers.

She is currently at work on her ninth novel, about Hokusai's daughter.

1 - How did your first book change your life?

It didn't.

2 - How long have you lived in Toronto, and how does geography, if at all, impact on your writing? Does race or gender make any impact on your work?

I lived in Toronto about 30 years with breaks for living in Washington DC (2 Years) and London England (2 Years) and now I live partly in Canmore Alberta.

Geography, race, gender--these are huge questions. Of course they impact the work.

3 - Where does a piece of fiction usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?

A novel is a book. Short stories come individually.

4 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process?

They can be a kind of reconnoitering with oneself. Meeting readers can be energizing.

5 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

Again- a giant question. Really you need to sit down and talk with other writers to answer this. I do think about the contemporary novel as I am writing. I bring the past into the present; it is what I do. This is not the same as historical fiction, and it is "new" in a sense.

6 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

I don't know what you mean. To me an editor is a person at a publishing house is charged with getting the book ready for publication. I usually listen to her or him very carefully. It is not often a very long term project-- these are mainly superficial changes.

7 - After having published more than a couple of titles over the years, do you find the process of book-making harder or easier?

Harder, because I choose harder things to do.

8 - When was the last time you ate a pear?

Three days ago.

9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

I really don't think I've had a lot of advice; I'm not sure people are able to hear it and I think it is mostly wasted. Robert Weaver once told me about the difference between a story of ideas (The Immaculate conception Photography Gallery) and a story of characters, and said people became polarized over the former, which I think is true.

10 - How easy has it been for you to move between genres (fiction to non-fiction)? What do you see as the appeal?

I do it and like to do it. Non-fiction is more true to observed experience and sometimes I have a strong urge to communicate that way--also it may be more accessible, expecially these days, as people are losing the ability to read fiction.

11 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one?

I write most days, early more than later.

How does a typical day (for you) begin?

At my computer.

12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

yoga, tennis, martial arts, --- something physical practised with other people in a room full of daylight.

13 - How does your most recent book compare to your previous work? How does it feel different?

14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

Pictures.

15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?

16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?

Spend a year living beside the ocean. Spend three months in India. Be irresponsible.

17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be?

landscape gardening, or psychotherapy.

Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

ditto

18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

The fact that I was not good enough to be a dancer. The fact that I loved books.

The fact that I loved words and sentences.

19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?


great film? I can think of good ones, not great ones.

20 - What are you currently working on?

a big novel about Hokusai's daughter.

Thursday, February 7, 2008

12 or 20 questions: with John Barton

John Barton: I was born in Edmonton and raised in Calgary, and have published eight books of poetry and five chapbooks, including Designs from the Interior (Anansi, 1993), Sweet Ellipsis (ECW, 1998), Hypothesis (Anansi, 2001) and Asymmetries (Frog Hollow, 2004). A bilingual edition of my third book, West of Darkness: Emily Carr, a self-portrait, was published by BuschekBooks in 2006. My ninth collection, Hymn, is forthcoming from Brick in 2009. I co-edited Seminal: The Anthology of Canada’s Gay-Male Poets, which was published by Arsenal Pulp in 2007. My work has won three Archibald Lampman Awards, the Patricia Hackett Prize (University of Western Australia), an Ottawa Book Award, a 2002 CBC Literary Award, and a 2006 National Magazine Award. I was educated at the Universities of Alberta, Calgary, Quebec, and Victoria, as well as at Columbia University in New York, studying poetry with Gary Geddes, Eli Mandel, Robin Skelton, and Joseph Brodsky. In 1986, I received a Master of Library and Information Science from the University of Western Ontario and in 1994, studied book editing at the Banff Publishing Centre. Since 1980, my poems have appeared in over twenty-five anthologies and seventy-five magazines (often more than once) across Canada and in the United States, Australia, India, and the United Kingdom. I’ve worked as a librarian and editor for five national museums in Ottawa from 1985 to 2003, where I also co-edited Arc: Canada’s National Poetry Magazine for thirteen years and was editor-in-chief of Vernissage: The Magazine of the National Gallery of Canada for two years. I have been poetry editor for Winnipeg’s Signature Editions since 2005. I live in Victoria since 2004, where I edit The Malahat Review.

1 - How did your first book change your life?

It made every book afterwards possible.

2 - How long have you lived in Victoria, and how does geography, if at all, impact on your writing? Does race or gender make any impact on your work?

I have lived in Victoria since 2004, but went to university here between 1978 and 1981, followed by two years of work as a shelver in the university library. Also, my maternal grandmother lived in Oak Bay until I was eleven, and we would visit her over the summer. Consequently, my link to this place is quite layered, if fragmented, as if I were peeling back brittle wallpaper, with several clashing patterns showing. It occurred to me the other day that I have been looking at the Olympic Mountains across the Strait of Juan de Fuca in Washington for more than half my life.

I suspect that anyone who knows my poetry would feel that I evince a strong connection to geography, but I would prefer to say that I am shaped by geographies. I believe landscape imprints itself upon us from an early age—Highway 1A west from Calgary is my true primordial landscape—but I have now lived in so many places that I have a hard time feeling a strong bond to any particular locale. However, those that I have known persistently creep into my writing these days; I live in on the edge of the Pacific Ocean, but I can find myself writing about Edmonton’s North Saskatchewan River valley one day, the nineteenth-century Victorian ambience of old Montreal the next, or the neoclassical facade of the British Museum a month later. It can make me feel very disconnected from where I am.

It would be fruitless to deny that race and gender profoundly impact on my writing. After all, by default I am male and white; god knows what unconscious attitudes are communicated through my work as a result. However, because I write from a gay perspective, I feel I am very self-aware and forthright in my ongoing explorations of orientation. I am very committed to the articulation of a fully gay sensibility.

3 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of shortpieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a"book" from the very beginning?

Though poems have come at me from many different angles over the years, I find it hard to isolate a single definitive source of inspiration. I carry many potential poems in my head at any given time; which one gets written often depend upon what other stimulants lure it onto the page. Something I have read, for example, will provide the key that will get the process going, and once I have a few words committed, so to speak, the poem truly starts to take shape. I greatly enjoy research to find details that I will inspire me. The majority of my poems have formed themselves from seemingly disparate elements; the goal of writing them is to find out what those elements have in common. While many of my books are composed of poems that may not have been conceived as belonging together, I have also conceived of large projects that I consciously realized poem by poem from the outset.

4 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process?

Like periodical publishing, I see readings as testing grounds, especially of new work, not so much of new books, which are promoted by tours that are marketing-oriented in nature. A lot of experienced writers eschew the open-sets that often open or end the nightly programs of established reading series, but I like to read new poems in them to see how they sound. I also like to put myself on the same stage with the more novice writers who form the backbone of such open sets, reading with them under the same conditions and terms. I recently read a new poem that referred to 9/11 in an open set during Wendy Morton’s Planet Earth Reading Series, here in Victoria. Afterwards, a sociologist came up to me and placed the poem in context of the analysis ongoing among his professional peers about what happened that day, its causes and its aftermath, which led me to make several three small revisions that rid the poem of some irksome rhetoric.

5 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kindsof questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

I am not sure if I consciously take on “theoretical concerns,” though I am preoccupied with the idea of sensibility. For me the best poems evince a way of being that it is their place to record and preserve.

6 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

It is both difficult and essential. Once I get over the shock of my editor’s insights, I find the process very enlightening and enriching—and the book or poem improves. I soon get over the narcissistic idea that, by taking in consideration the considered suggestions of an outside reader, I am somehow losing creative control. It’s wonderful to consider other possibilities for meaning.

7 - After having published more than a couple of titles over the years, do you find the process of book-making harder or easier?

I find it both easier and harder. The former because I am simply more experienced at knowing how to compile a book and the latter because my expectations as to what a book should be becomes ever more exacting and ambitious. I don’t want my books to be too similar to one another—though some similarity is inevitable—so the challenge rests in figuring out how to make each one new or different, at least to me.

8 - When was the last time you ate a pear?

As far as I remember, at Christmas, at my mother’s in Calgary. Pears make me think of Phyllis Webb’s poem, “Two Pears: A Still Life”:

The pears
fruit, the first idea, seed
into core, into pulp and glowing

skin, love’s
radical contour shines here in stillness
secret, original, a dream of candour.
Though they can fail to ripen or can all of a sudden rot, pears are very pure, life’s ultimate ephemeral fruit.

9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

It’s not anything that was told to me, but rather something I read and wrote down when I was a student—and it’s not exactly advice. In a Paris Review interview compiled in the Writers at Work monographic series, Conrad Aiken said: “We isolate, we exile our great men [and women], whether by ignoring them or by praising them stupidly. And perhaps this isolation we offer them is our greatest gift.” From this I took solace—not that I would eventually be a great writer; rather that it didn’t matter whether or not my work was greeted with renown, incomprehension, or passed unnoticed. Any of these eventualities need not hinder my ability to realize, in personal terms, what my true potential was, and is, for it could be something I could pursue alone and in my own terms. In the time since, this has helped me put the reception of my work into a right and proper perspective—especially when it has been ill-informed or negative!

10 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?

When I am writing well, I like to work in the afternoon. The morning is devoted to reading (perhaps in preparation), exercise, or domestic chores, the evening to socializing or solitary relaxation. I like also to think of writing as a weekday activity, with the weekends off. I cut my teeth as an after-hours civil service poet, so it took a grant for me discover that this regimen works best for me. However, when I am in the grip of a poem, I can write at all hours, through the night, and for days on end.

11 - Where is your favourite place to write?

At my computer, which is a desktop, so I am always cloistered in my apartment when I am writing. I should really get a laptop so I can make the world my office. Because I am very fond of reading in coffee shops, I suspect that I could write well in them as well were I suitably equipped. Blocking out distracting environmental noise helps me focus more narrowly on the task at hand. I haven’t written a poem in longhand in over twenty years, so sitting with a notebook in Starbucks is out of the question; I am very tied to technologies far more sophisticated than the pen. It is the technology keeps me creatively stuck and lonely as a cloud in my office.

12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

I place a great deal of faith in the healing, purgative powers of revision. I like to rework poems abandoned long ago as failures, poems that I might not have looked at for a decade or more. I am freed by the fact that I can’t remember what my original intentions were, so can therefore happily pervert or cannibalize them, wrenching them in some new direction. By reworking these poems, I am saved from the agonizing void of the first draft. Similarly, if I get blocked when writing a brand-new poem, I simply write down the first thing that comes into my head, however inane. That random thought often proves crucial to what the final draft turns out to be.

13 - How does your most recent book compare to your previous work? How does it feel different?

It is technically more adventurous than anything I have written so far.

14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

I derive a great deal of stimulation from the visual arts and also have at different times drawn inspiration from science and the natural world. I greatly enjoy researching ideas as a method of discovering ways into them that might not have otherwise occurred to me had I instead tried to write my poems more naively. I like details to be accurate.

15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?
I am very interested in understanding what constitutes the gay canon, so I am constantly reading gay writers, past and present, to chart the complexity of a shared sensibility. While, obviously, the majority of what I read has been written in English—Auden, Crane, Isherwood, Ackerley, Forster, Capote, Hollinghurst, Cunningham, Toibin, etc—it does cause me to read much more internationally than I might have otherwise—Gide, Mishima, Genet, Yourcenar. I also try to read the occasional Canadian writer: Ondaatje, Moure [see her 12 or 20 here], Munro, Page, Webb, and Hay [see her 12 or 20 here].

16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?
I would like to live a long time in another country. I am a Mavis Gallant manqué.

17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

When I was a child, I wanted to be an architect, so I entered university with the long-held intention of becoming one. Early on, however, I got thrown off track by doing badly in calculus, which I stupidly studied in French, a language I had a faulty grasp of then, at Faculté Saint-Jean at the University of Alberta. I was also enrolled in distracting English courses on the main campus. Thirty years later, I am still fascinated by the built environment, a fascination inspired by watching office towers go up in downtown Calgary, the rapidly changing city where I grew up in the 1960s and 70s. Looking back, however, I suspect that had I pursued architecture as a profession, I would have ended up, like most graduates, working on very small projects like the design of cookie-cutter houses for developers in suburban areas. Domestic architecture, kitchens especially, hold absolutely no appeal for me, for my abiding interest has always focused on public architecture: performance halls, museums, libraries, embassies, colleges, hospitals, office buildings, etc., signature projects that would have been exciting to design. However, the architecture of today’s public buildings seems to me to be more in the control of developers whose interest is not aesthetic, but monetary. The number of true artists in the field has always been destined to be very few, and my chances to have been one of them doubtlessly almost non-existent. As a poet, the factors affecting my ability to pursue my vocation are so obviously very few in comparison, and if no one wants to publish what I have on offer, I can still write, if bitterly. Architects (and the kind of architect I would like to have been) depend on the good graces of too many who have vast amounts of power and money. That said, I love mooning vicariously over the architecture magazines at my nearby newsstand, skipping the spreads on designer homes, of course.

18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

The one place I can be an authority is in my own work. Therefore, I took a degree in creative writing rather than in English, which would have required me to be an expert—likely a nerve-wracked and ineffectual one—about the work of others.

19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?

I find it hard single out one book, so I will mention three: André Gide’s The Counterfeiters, originally published in 1925 to controversy for its “frank” depiction of homosexuality (to the present-day reader, it seems quite indirect); Augustín Gómez-Arcos’ The Carnivorous Lamb, which explores an incestuous relationship between two brothers as a form of protest in Franco’s Spain; and J. R. Ackerley’s memoir, My Father and Myself, which documents the life of a homosexual in the first half of twentieth century—which in turn led me to my current book, Martin Taylor’s 1989 anthology, Lads: The Love Poetry of the Trenches, which collects poems written by comrades to one another during World War One, when the relations between men were less scrutinized, because under fire, in the aftermath of the Wilde trials and before theoretical paradigms of psychology became entrenched. A like poetry was not written during World War Two.

As to movies, I will mention the recent French film, Lady Chatterley, which beautifully and accurately captures the Lawrentian spirit, Julian Schnabel’s The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and Sean Penn’s Into the Wild. The last two especially, I believe, are two of the best films in recent memory, and I am struck that both are based on works of nonfiction. The former a memoir painstakingly dictated by its paralyzed author, the editor of Elle, who can only blink one eye, once for yes, twice for no, to select the letters he needs to form words and express himself ; the latter is a work of creative nonfiction that explores a young man’s disastrous attempt to fully abandon the shallowness of mainstream society.

20 - What are you currently working on?

Actually, at present, I am working on the revision of my next book (which is forthcoming next year from Brick), based on my editor’s rather detailed and excellent report. It’s been enjoyable, almost contemplative work. When I am finished, I will go back to the two books of poems I am writing. One is composed of set forms, which I have never tried before. I have been trying to bend, twist, and even distort them while also researching obscure poetic forms not common in English. A good source for these is Robin Skelton’s posthumous The Shapes of Our Singing. My other writing project is very long-term historical project about three men drawn from a loosely knit group of gay artists and friends that thrived in New York through the middle of the twentieth century and, more crucially, before Stonewall, an era when gay identity was much different than it is today. I am very interested in what the lives of these three men—Paul Cadmus (a painter), George Platt Lynes (a photographer), and Lincoln Kirstein (founder of the New York City Ballet)—suggest about the times they lived in and how their aesthetic concerns came to shape the gay body. These poems are coming very slowly, but I am in no rush. I feel very fortunate that no one hangs on my every word.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008

12 or 20 questions: with Juliana Spahr

photo credit: Katharine Wright

Juliana Spahr's most recent book of poetry is This Connection of Everyone with Lungs (U of California, 2005), a collection of poems that she wrote from November 30, 2002 to March 30, 2003 that chronicled the buildup to the latest US invasion of Iraq. Atelos recently published The Transformation (2007), a book of prose which tells the story of three people who move between Hawai‘i and New York in order to talk about cultural geography, ecology, anticolonialism, queer theory, language politics, the academy, and recent wars. The forthcoming Well Then There Now will collect the essays and poems that Spahr has been writing about the various places where she has lived: the Lower East Side, Honolulu, Waikiki, Brooklyn, and Chillicothe, Ohio. This book reflects her interests in urban geographies and their ecologies as it questions nature poetry, investigates the politics of naming, chronicles the current environmental crises, and mourns species loss. Spahr edited the journal Chain with Jena Osman from 1994-2005. And with nineteen other poets she has been an editor of the collectively edited and collectively funded Subpress.

1 - How did your first book change your life?

Not sure it did. Although I say that and of course wonder if I'm lying because I'm sure it has had some impact on getting jobs and getting jobs has had a huge impact on my paying of the rent and my eating of food.

2 - How long have you lived in Oakland, and how does geography, if at all, impact on your writing? Does race or gender make any impact on your work?

I live in Berkeley now. But I lived in Oakland for two and a half years. Geography has tended to be something I write about but I have not written anything that is about the East Bay. And yes, my race and gender impacts me and my work all day long.

3 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?

I'm a project person. I say to myself, oh I could learn something from thinking more about that. And then I go and start reading and then maybe half a year later start writing something. Or I see someone do something interesting and I think, oh I'd like to be thinking about that also and I do that.

4 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process?

Probably neither. I tend to just show up and read work that is already done. I haven't been very inventive with this form. Although often the conversation after readings has really changed my work.

5 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

The questions I'm interested in are always changing. I wrote a lot about the legacies of colonialism. Now I'm thinking a lot about the environment.

6 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

I love working with people. And co-writing stuff. And things like that. Is that an outside editor? I'm not sure I've had one. Although I've been lucky to have some friends who are willing to read stuff and argue with me about it.

7 - After having published more than a couple of titles over the years, do you find the process of book-making harder or easier?

Probably the same. It also seems so after the fact and after all the work is done that it feels like busy work more than anything else.

8 - When was the last time you ate a pear?

Maybe two months ago. I remember going through a stage where I was putting pears into salad. But I bought a few that were too ripe and then stopped doing it. Maybe pear season ended.

9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

Oh so many! I once had a dream when I was working on my dissertation where Stephen King came to me and told me I should make more sense. That was helpful.

10 - How easy has it been for you to move between genres (poetry to criticism)? What do you see as the appeal?

The move has been easy and the two genres feel like they feed each other. But I don't think it has been a good "career" move. Like if I wanted to be a more successful academic--whether a critic or a poet--I think I should have just done one or the other. I like though how when one genre feels tired or played out, I can go think in the other one. And then when that one gets tired or played out, I can go back to the first one.

11 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?

I usually am working on something in my spare time. So I'll have something in my backpack and I'll try and work on it when I've got a half hour somewhere.

A typical day right now... At 5 am, Sasha wants to be fed; after feeding him, I put him back to bed. At 7 am, he wants up and starts screaming to let me know. I get up with him and try to deal with household stuff until 9. This involves things like getting Sasha dressed and getting dressed myself, putting dishes away from last night, taking numerous vitamins and supplements, making a strong black tea and drinking some of it, eating some food, pumping breast milk, checking email, washing face and brushing teeth, 15-20 minutes of yoga if possible, etc. At 9 or so Sasha usually goes down for nap. I at that moment go to computer until he wakes up. He usually wakes up at 10 or 10:30. I go get him, change his diaper, feed him. Then we might go out and do something until 1. Today I went to grocery. Then I came home and he sat in the stroller outside while I planted some nemophilia plants I got yesterday in the same time slot. Sometime around 1 or 1:30, I fed him again, changed his diaper, and put him down to sleep. He is still asleep and it is 2:08. I am, thus, working on this email.

12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

No where. I usually have this reassuring thought that I might never write anything again and I think about the other sorts of things I could do and how much fun that would be.

13 - How does your most recent book compare to your previous work? How does it feel different?

It is in prose and so it felt like it had a lot of words and the words were out of my control because I couldn't keep them all in my head. It was hard to get the errors out. And I'm sure there are many still in there.

14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

Oh yes. All of those. Plus conversations late at night in the bar. And long walks with friends. And... and... and...

15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?

I had to write a bio today for some talk I'm doing and I wrote this:

"When asked who her favorite poet might be, on most days this year she has answered Kamau Brathwaite. But in the last few months she has started to say Aimé Césaire some of the time. For many years the answer to this question was Theresa Hak Kyung Cha. And before that it was Gertrude Stein."
16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?

Again, so endless. But when I think, oh answer the question, my first thought is to things like live in the desert for a long time. Or live on a small island in FSM for a long time. Or to move to Mexico for a long time.

17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

Today I'd like to be a botanist. A week of rain just ended and so it is moist and sunny outside the window and the plants are looking happy and I want to know them all more intimately.

If I had not been a writer I guess I would have been a secretary. I seemed to be heading that way until I got insane idea I should write things which I got because I went to this private college for rich kids where one could consider such follies.

18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

I think it has a lot to do with how that private college for rich kids didn't really offer any vocational training. So I took writing courses. And there was a really interesting poet there named Robert Kelly and he kept giving me books to read and I liked them.

19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?

I saw this film Bamako the other night that I loved. I think it will enter my list of all time favorite films.

My first thought about the last great book was to Peter Weiss's Aesthetics of Resistance. But again, there are so many.

20 - What are you currently working on?

Oh various things. I just wrote a long piece on Chillicothe, Ohio, where I grew up, that is also an essay on Hannah Weiner's "Radcliffe and Guatemala Women." And then I've been working with Stephanie Young to try and understand what is going on with gender in contemporary poetry. Our latest attempt was recently published in the Chicago Review and is available online at http://humanities.uchicago.edu/orgs/review/CR_532_Spahr_Young.pdf. And I am trying to talk Bill Luoma into making an API for me for a project I call Frogger which in my fantasy is a map interface that will allow people to post their memories, poems, and photographs of frogs before they disappear altogether because of the global massive die off of amphibians that is happening right now.

Tuesday, February 5, 2008

12 or 20 questions: with Daniel Scott Tysdal

Daniel Scott Tysdal is the author of Predicting the Next Big Advertising Breakthrough Using a Potentially Dangerous Method, winner of the ReLit Award for Poetry, the Anne Szumigalski Poetry Award and the John V. Hicks Award. His poetry has appeared in a number of Canadian literary journals and has earned him both an honourable mention at the 2003 National Magazine Awards and a place in the finals of the CBC’s 2005 National Poetry Face-Off. Born in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Daniel is presently finishing his MA in Creative Writing at the University of Toronto. Samples of his writing can be found at http://danielscotttysdal.blogspot.com/

1 - How did your first book change your life?

The Andy Warhol answer: Better parties. The Ludwig Wittgenstein answer: You are doing it wrong.

2 - How long have you lived in Toronto, and how does geography, if at all, impact on your writing? Does race or gender make any impact on your work?

I have only lived in Toronto for a little over a year. Since I was raised on a farm south of Moose Jaw in the 1980s, I would have to say that geography played a big part in shaping how I write and what I write about. On the one hand, there was the geography of the prairie—not only the roads and horizons and blinds and coulees, but the barns filled with a century’s worth of debris, the outdated machines, buried pets and abandoned homesteads. On the other hand, there was the geography of the screen, of the satellite dish—decades old reruns, American paranoia, forgotten monster movies and MTV. Both geographies nurtured different kinds of exploration and both were filled with husks and ghosts and ruins and creatures, but in completely different forms. In the afternoon you could dig chicken heads out of a snow bank and then in the evening watch the world premiere of Michael Jackson’s “Thriller.”

3 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?

A poem hits with an event, an insight, or a glimpse that unbalances you. For me, the first tingling takes the form of a compound of image and emotion. The image might be an actual image, like a painting or a photo, a glimpse of the lived scenery, or something entirely imagined but in all cases the image provokes a very physical, emotional response, a feeling of intense hope or despair. That’s where the first line—which might end up being the last line or a scrapped line—comes from. As far as the larger project goes, I didn’t have any grand schemes the first time around. When I collected the poems together for Predicting, I saw that half the poems were dramatic/lyric monologues and the other half were elegies and so I organised them that way.

4 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process?

Readings are essential to the creative life—to sharing work and getting feedback—and reading aloud is an indispensable component of the creative process, but public readings call for a different kind of creative energy and a different kind of intellectual work so I would say they run counter to the process of writing poetry. Plus I get nervous as hell and I’m basically useless for a few days before and after.

5 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

The current concern is the oldest concern: images, images, images. What are they? What do they make of us and what do we make of them? How do they intercede in our relationship with what is horrifying and what is good? Poetry necessarily comes at this from the perspective of subjectivity, but must do so in a way that tests the elasticity of the “I,” explores its stops and starts, its choruses. Because one of the really big questions today goes something like: how is narcissism nurtured and valued with greater and greater vigour in a world whose expanding knowledge makes available, and demands, more and more global modes of identification and action (with the more colloquial, stand-up comic rendering being: “What the fuck, people?”)?

6 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

Judging from my experience with George Elliott Clarke, I would say working with an outside editor is essential and easy. He improved the manuscript by suggesting changes that made the poems more lively and direct.

7 - After having published a couple of titles over the past few years, whether chapbook or trade book, do you find the process of book-making harder or easier?

Easier in that I’m more aware of my habits and strengths but harder in that my weaknesses (I mean like the almost transcendental, “this is what I’m capable of” limits (the whole “no further than Q” thing in To the Lighthouse)) are so much more legible.

8 - When was the last time you ate a pear?

December. It was poached in spices.

9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

Revise, revise, revise.

10 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?

When I’m really into a project, I’ll get up early and head straight to the coffee shop. I always do my best writing in the morning. I tend to write in big chunks of time. The idea will come and I won’t be able to leave the piece until I have a complete draft. Once I have that initial whole I can get back to a normal (re: other-person filled) existence as I revise.

11 - Where is your favourite place to write?

I like both extremes, public and busy or quiet and secluded, though I usually need a mix of both. I tend to do most of my writing in coffee shops, but find revising in transit—on the streetcar, walking around town—to be productive.

12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

Going for a walk usually does the trick. I tend to write in two hour chunks broken up by walks. If I’m really stuck, certain poems tend to get me going again. Ashbery’s “Syringa” is the best at this for some reason. People like Deleuze or Adorno or Žižek are helpful. They give your mind a different kind of system to survey, to react to and pursue.

13 - How does your most recent book compare to your previous work? How does it feel different?

One of the last poems I wrote for Predicting, “How We Know We Are Being Addressed by the Man Who Shot Himself Online,” opened up some formal possibilities and thematic concerns that I wanted to continue exploring. Most of the poems I’ve written for the new manuscript are elegies that look at different forms of mourning, the changing object of mourning and the changing form the elegy takes.

14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

Film and visual art really inform what and how I compose (working with the whole page as a kind of canvas or screen, for example), but television and the internet—channel- and web-surfing as forms of perceptual movement and change—have probably been just as influential. This might be too Ong-y or McLuhan-ish, but when I read my old poems I see the influence of the remote control and the hyperlink in everything from the processes of deferral and displacement that constitute thematic development to the levels of mediation that resonate in the poems through the force of borrowed languages and forms. When I worked with Don McKay at Banff he described the “I” in my poems as working by a kind of “oblique phenomenology,” which I think maybe describes what I’m trying to get at.

15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?

Browning, Stevens, Pynchon, DeLillo. As far as people I know, Michael Trussler has been a big influence on my work, not only through his writing, but through his lectures, through the writers he has led me to read, and through our conversations. I had the opportunity to read his short fiction and poems before they were published in Encounters and Accidental Animals, respectively, and learned a lot about what it means to attend to the detail.

16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?

Make a movie.

17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

I would have been a hermit. Or a geneticist who engineered a waste-free human body truly capable of conceiving of a zero waste society.

18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

I think it had a lot to do with developing the habits of a writer and coming to value the labour of writing, its experiences, its products and its potentials.

19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?

Truly “don’t let it stop” great? Sebald’s The Rings of Saturn and Chris Marker’s Sans Soleil. “That was great” great? No Country for Old Men. Both the book and the film make violence violent and evil evil, which sounds funny, but is rare, especially at the movies. And both works do so as a way of showing how hope is cherished and preserved and necessary as one era of hopelessness transitions into one that seems even more hopeless. Plus, in light of something like Juno, it was nice to watch a movie that was more than a well-acted music video.

20 - What are you currently working on?

I am currently finishing up my second book of poetry.

Monday, February 4, 2008

12 or 20 questions: with Betsy Warland

BETSY WARLAND has never enjoyed writing her bio. It brings up an odd collision of feelings ranging from tedium, to anxieties about presentation, to flashes of accomplishment, blush of hidden failures. The form’s requirement to write about oneself in the third person – in order to continue the illusion that an objective someone else, other than ourselves, composes these – is also peculiar. Perhaps to rattle it off fast: ten books, two manuscripts, two plays, editor of 4 books, a number of vocal music compositions based on her poems including a recent CD by Elizabeth Raum, and lots of critical essays (mostly for artist’s show catalogues).

Writing is her dawn & dusk, her teacher.

Now, the “How do you support yourself as a writer?” side.

The list: Director and on faculty of The Writer’s Studio at SFU (love it but very part-time modest pay); runs own individual manuscript consulting service and the 5-month Vancouver Manuscript Intensive; teaches numerous creative writing courses; editing contracts; and able to travel recently (!) with teaching gigs in UK, France, maybe Mexico. http://www.betsywarland.com/

All this she also relishes. It’s just a struggle to get writing time. Where have you heard this before?

1 - How did your first book change your life?

In some surprising ways!

What one anticipates is that it initiates your membership into the literary community. I found this to be true and not true. In retrospect you realize, of course, it’s not that simple. For most of us, acceptance and acknowledgment can take years. As a good visual artist friend of mine says: “We just have to live long enough!”

Prior, most of the readings I gave were group readings, and after my book came out I learned to stand on the ground of solo readings. This was crucial as this is when you really know how well the writing is working: when it is just you, the writing, and the audience.

It certainly drew a line between the public and private in unanticipated ways. In A Gathering Instinct there was a suite of poems about the break-up of my marriage to which my parents reacted violently. My mother informed my brother that she was going to take a razor blade and cut out those first 20 pages – then she would give her sisters my book on the strict condition that they would never mention it to anyone (including their husbands!). When she mentioned her plan to my brother he pointed out that they would notice the book began on page 21. That they would likely imagine much worse things and she relented. After this, I did not mention my subsequent books to my folks: it was too much for them to handle.

Nearly 25 years later, while closing up her mother’s home, a cousin discovered my book hidden beneath the shelf lining of her mother’s underwear door. My cousin had only heard rumours about the book.

Even more contentious was that the book contained several poems that only a discerning reader would have recognized to be lesbian love poems. This was 1981. I was strongly advised as a first-time author to only publish a few non-explicit love poems. Reading those” safe” love poems – sans the context of the deleted, explicit poems – created an odd dynamic for me. After having written the absent erotic into being a present erotic, these poems in the book then became a vehicle for yet another erasure into the “universal.” This is when I began to see that universality is a historically specific concept: it arose out of a small, heterosexual, male-defined homogenous society and in contemporary time must be questioned.

In 1982 Phyllis Webb’s exquisite “Naked Poems” appeared in her book The Vision Tree. Again, these required a discerning reader. Three years later I had to make a different decision with open is broken. These poems were preoccupied with inventing a lesbian erotic language enabled by a greater use of experimental form. This was also true of my partner at the time, Daphne Marlatt’s book, Touch to My Tongue. Our books were the first books of their kind in English Canada. Now it seems astonishing, but we gave co-readings from these books across Canada.

2 - How long have you lived in Vancouver, and how does geography, if at all, impact on your writing? Does race or gender make any impact on your work?

I moved to Vancouver in 1981 as a result of a broken heart! As children, all four of my grandparents immigrated to the USA from Norway. Thus, my genetic sensibilities immediately resonated with the landscape of Vancouver mountains and sea.

When I was on a G.G. jury for poetry over a decade ago, I was struck by how different West Coast authored books of poetry were. They were more ethereal, philosophical, meditative, formally experimental, notably less narrative and anecdotal; landscape figured in significantly but remained autonomous and mysterious. It was as if these collections were written in a different country! An on the edge “country” of writing: one with which I resonated.

Race and gender – yes. Phew! Big questions, rod! I am a composite of these, yet of many other things too. I wrote about them more earlier on, as I also interrogated and re-imaged language more early on: those were the years of laying down my foundation as a writer. What I am fascinated by now is consciousness: both what is conditioned and that which seems to exist beyond conditioning.

Recently I have found a name that finally fits: a person of between. Not surprisingly, it is writing of the between that I am most drawn to. Am inspired by. These are often writers of different racial, cultural, country of origin lineages; writers who are in various ways socially “aberrant;” writers who are public intellectuals.

3 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?

Occasionally a single poem “comes to me” but predominantly it is a territory of linked suites or an extended poetic narrative. These begin with a handful of narrative and formal elements that constellate with a certain surprising intensity. What their relationship is to one another is not evident – this is what drives the writing – this quest. With only this blue, the first suite began with a colour (green), the use of blank space as a resistant-state to printed language, nature as guidance, and the double en-dash.

Not coincidentally, other art forms I am deeply engaged in work in this manner: a visual artist’s series of portraits; a composer’s use of movements or series of related compositions. My preoccupation with betweeness, pattern, synchronicity also suit series and book-length forms.

4 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process?

Public readings are crucial for me. Like a composer-musician who must perform their music, poetry is an air-borne art form! I often read from work in progress to I find out what is working well; what is not. And to be totally honest, the reception of my work has been seldom “taken up” in any depth in critical writing, nor are my books (to date) on many course lists. So, readings are where this connection and reception occurs. It is also where the power of poetry is collectively shared. This is paramount. Our disengagement from religious institutions has created an isolating despair; a longing for collective moments of transformation. Poetry readings are needed more than ever.

5 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

I read a lot of theory in the 80s. It was pivotal to my development as a writer. In the 90s I began to read less: it became an area of expertise that I wasn’t inclined to devote myself to acquiring; I began to be more interested in sleuthing my own theories.

My writing is driven by philosophical and spiritual inquiry. For me, thinking involves the whole self – from the odd particularities of one’s lived experience to the proprioceptive and encoded nature of language to cultural patterns of behaviour to core questions such as “How does a life-threatening situation change our perceptions of the ordinary?” (only this blue)

6 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

Right off I want to say that the editing, revising process is as interesting as the first draft, inscription process. The composition stage (editing & revising) has its own intriguing and creative aspects. As I mentioned above, readings activate my third ear through which I hear the poems more objectively.

I show my work early on to “my first readers.” These are friends who are writers, editors, librarians, visual artists, acute readers – who know what I am after – who will tell me where I’m on & off the scent.

When I first began publishing, editing done by a press was more erratic and I learned to take responsibility for it myself. For my first book, I enlisted two friends with good editing skills (poet Gay Allison, and librarian, lover at the time, Janet Rogers). With open is broken, my partner writer Daphne Marlatt gave me excellent editorial input. I learned a lot from Daphne about editing; she’s a meticulous editor. My third book, serpent (w)rite, was edited by bpNichol and I learned important things about structural shaping from him.

Other editors that were particularly invaluable were Barbara Kuhne (Proper Definitions and InVersions), Beth McAuley (Bloodroot), poet and editor Rachel Zolf (only this blue).

My teaching and consulting sharpened my abilities and I became quite a good editor of my own work and do the most of it myself. It is not unusual for me to fine-tune edit a poem up to a hundred times. I am a “subtractive” writer. I must get it on paper without preconceptions, staying acutely on the scent, and set aside the editor. Once I have the first draft, I begin to take away (like a sculptor); refine; revise. I am an adept substantive and line editor but I would never want to rely on myself for skillful copy-editing!

7 - After having published more than a couple of titles over the years, do you find the process of book-making harder or easier?

Harder! No doubt about that. Particularly finding of a publisher. The enormous changes still happening in the publishing and bookselling industries are part of it. For example, Chapters-Indigo has recently announced it will no longer sell poetry books. When I did my own research via compiling National Library data in 2002, I found between 1985 and 2001 publication of fiction books increased by 300%; poetry books only increased by 65%. Prior to 1985, the proportion of poetry and fiction published was more similar.

The feminist literary scene also lost its momentum and migrated away from a fairly autonomous production base to an academic setting where only a few feminist writers can be focused on. Ageism also has entered in. Publishers’ central concern is bottom-line: their enthusiasm and respect for a manuscript appears to less and less the decisive factor (I have recently experienced this). And, if you are writer who remains faithful to your narrative quest, the likelihood of falling out of fashion is increased. I think there is also less reception for writing that takes intellectual risks. The unquenchable thirst for entertainment has over-taken us more than we realize..

8 - When was the last time you ate a pear?

This morning! I was not a pear fan until I lived on Salt Spring and experienced pears right off the tree in our garden. Since then: I’m hooked.

9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

I came across it a couple of decades ago in Virginia Woolf A Writer’s Diary, “…when the pen gets on the scent.” This has been my guiding mantra ever since. We can only write incrementally – one word at a time – just as a dog sniffs the trail of a specific animal or person – we must recognize each narrative’s distinct scent. When we are on the scent of the narrative it is a visceral, elating and sometimes terrifying experience. Doubt and confusion drop away. We trust where the narrative’s momentum and trajectory will take us. It’s not that we have it all figured out, but rather that we are wholly inside each idiosyncratic step of how that narrative goes about building itself.

10 - How easy has it been for you to move between genres (poetry to non-fiction)? What do you see as the appeal?

Scale. I am drawn to the mystery of how poetry can convey an idea in an astonishing image yet the investigation of ideas is more of a contract between writer and reader in creative non-fiction and I relish this too. The form of creative non-fiction I enjoy the most is lyric prose as it conflates poetic devices and sensibilities, creative non-fiction’s considered thinking, and some of the narrative elements used in fiction.

Many of my books are book-length narratives that shift in & out of poetry & lyric prose (open is broken, Double Negative, The Bat Had Blue Eyes, Two Women in a Birth, only this blue). These narratives required different proximities to convey their complexities of perception.

Because I am intrigued by process and phenomenology, I relish how creative non-fiction requires that the architecture of thought-making be made transparent. Lyric prose writing (memoir and critical essays) really works my brain hard. I can literally feel my left & right hemisphere arcing back & forth! In lyric prose, the discovery (the “subject”) is as much about finding each narrative’s inherent form as it is about finding its content.

11 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?

Ahh – the question that makes us squirm. It changed dramatically about ten years ago. Prior to that, I had periods of being able to maintain a routine of writing almost every day for a number of hours. Then a series of life circumstances left me with little to often no time to write. I had to learn to write in a different manner. I now write far less frequently, in short bits of time. I have learned how to concentrate quickly, write economically, and “hold” the writing in my mind between inscription times. Book-length manuscripts definitely help maintain the territory. Over time, I find that the way I teach creative writing and do manuscript consults becomes more & more similar to how I write! Also, I’ve learned to bring a similar attention to the composition of work-related writing (critical essays for art catalogues, emails and email interviews) as I do to my own writing. In some respects, this has all made me a better writer.

Typical day: awaken early, meditate, breakfast followed by at least a half an hour of musing with two cups of China Silver-Tipped green tea (in warm weather = outside on my patio/in cold weather = in front of my gas fireplace), and listen mostly to piano –– currently The Impromptus and The Complete Piano Trios by Schubert, and Handel’s Suites for Keyboard – then like an otter, slip into the writing as soon as I feel its force-field. On the majority of the days, however, it’s into my paid work that fortunately, I enjoy.

12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

Happily, lots of “places.” Solitude, my Buddhist practice, Jazz and Classical music, my writing about writing (Breathing the Page), teaching creative writing, dance performances, galleries, immersion in nature, attentive interactions with my ten-year son, other authors’ book, film, theatre, and during manuscript consults – deeply engaging with another writer’s manuscript – are all sources. Typically, I am in need of contrast, defamiliarization, “making it new;” alternate “languages.”

When working with another writer’s manuscript, or teaching creative writing, it’s not that I get ideas from what they are writing but rather that it plunges me into that intuitive, perceptual, formal way of encountering the world: its like tuning in to a very particular frequency.

13 - How does your most recent book compare to your previous work? How does it feel different?

In only this blue, I give over to space more than ever before – the uninscribed left hand page shimmers throughout the long poem: the uninscribed what-can-not-be-said given equal presence as the inscribed. Maybe this is why I revise so much – I revise the scored space (“blank” areas) as much as the inscribed (print) areas! It is also a right & left brain book: a long poem and related essay, “Nose to Nose,” on the form of poetry.

This book manifested in a different manner. Due to very demanding life circumstances, I had been only writing creative non-fiction. I had not written poetry for a few years. This had never happened to me before. I feared that I had lost my way into the poem. Perhaps forever.

Then, when I had a rare two days of solitude, the poem returned. I hadn’t realized how deeply I had been grieving its absence until it resurfaced. The gratitude was overwhelming. This made the book unlike any of my previous ones. Also, the book’s design came to me as a whole: I had never experienced this before either. It’s exact dimensions; its uninscribed left hand pages; the photo-shoot idea for the cover image; the precise blue colour-field of the cover of the Montreal early evening November sky.

14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

Other than what I mentioned above, yes, some of my reading about science as well.

15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?

This is one of those questions in the same category as when someone asks “What do you write about?” My mind always stalls. With books, usually it’s days later when I can suddenly identify which ones are important to me.

Humourously speaking – the question that I’ve encountered is (Stranger) “So, what do you do?” (Betsy) “I’m a writer.” (Stranger) “Oh, how interesting – what kind of horses?”

There are so many writers I could name but I am only going to mention those that, over a long period of time and in a complete manner continue to be solar for me. Writers who persist(ed) in evolving as writers.

Nicole Brossard’s books continue to challenge and elate me. Her writing embraces the philosophical, the emotive, the erotic, an ongoing formal (structural) quests, an almost iconic relationship to language, the political (not abstract but embodied), and the meditative (quietly spiritual) inquiry.

Virginia Woolf is another, and the combination of her novels (still so innovative formally) and her thinking about the formal and political questions of writing in Virginia Woolf A Writer’s Diary are crucial for me. Too, she had the ear of a fine poet.

U.S. (originally from Antigua) author Jamaica Kincaid is another one for me. Kincaid also embodies stunning formal skills (on the level of language, the line, and the book’s structure); her narrators and characters are fiercely embodied; evoke the political implications of our lives in tell-tail details with gripping honesty; and she infuses her writing with unflinching intellectual inquiry.

16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?

Live in Venice for six months to a year! Anyone want to do a flat exchange?

Some years ago I wrote an operatic play on Vivaldi’s life as a composer and impresario for his operas and papal ban which essentially finished him off. I would love to see play produced. While writing the play l fell in love with Venice.

17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

Be a composer. Formally, I think like a composer and music is an absolutely essential part of my life. Recently, author Anne Stone [see her 12 or 20 here], wrote a “Featured Studio Visit” in Matrix on me, and for my accompanying bio I gleefully abandon the expected and wrote: “Betsy Warland is a could-have-been-composer with a visual artist’s sensibility working in a writer’s medium.”

18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

I decided in my early twenties between being a visual artist (painting) and writing. I didn’t consider myself sufficiently endowed to excel in both forms. Also, I was in the U.S. then and had experienced how writing, particularly poetry, taproots the social well-being of a society. During the 50s, 60s, early 70s, feminist, African American, and Beat poetry were clearly shaping social and artistic consciousness: providing social vision. The fact that writing is also a more accessible art form was also a decisive factor: it only requires the “tools” of everyday life. Is very affordable. And one does not have to be prosperous to buy a book (compared to buying a painting).

19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?

Kincaid’s novel, The Autobiography of My Mother. How she works with the line in that novel is absolutely stunning; riveting. This is no exaggeration: when I read the first sentence of that novel I was nearly blown out of my chair.

Just last night: The Savages featuring two brilliant actors: Laura Linney and Philip Seymour Hoffman as sister and brother (a relationship rarely focused on in film). It is a genius film of the small gestures that signal pivotal moments. Moments in which we can either be buoyed up out of our suffering (and do something different) or sink deeper down into our suffering (do the same old). Tamara Jenkins wrote and directed it. I find that films written and directed by the same person can rely far more on their own quirky, inherent coherence and vision.

20 - What are you currently working on?

Breathing the Page: The Writers & State of Consciousness is a manuscript of twenty-three essays on writing. Ten years in the writing: it’s my opus! It is an investigation into the question: Why do talented writer’s with well-crafted, promising narratives of prose or poetry flounder?” Half of the essays establish a language (via concepts) that I have developed to address concerns that underlie the more tangible ones of craft, process, and editing.

The other half of the essays are about our everyday writing materials – their histories and properties – about how it is necessary to invigorate them; not “take them for granted.” In sum, it is about the various states of consciousness we need to bring to writing so that our unexamined habits and assumptions neither stunt us as writers, nor the power of the narratives we write.

At a much earlier stage is a lyric prose manuscript, Oscar – A Story of Failures, that I started about a year ago. It begins with the narrator taking a second proper name (of the opposite gender) and experiencing a pivotal insight about her life while viewing a camouflage exhibit at the Imperial War Museum in London. The invention of military camouflage (and subsequent application to our daily lives), Cubism, Relativity, the changes in consciousness in writers during the first half of the century, and the notion of failure and betweeness all figure in.

Signing off,

Thanks, rob, for your provocative and fun questions. One of the best one-sided x 2, one-sided conversations I have had!

Betsy
February 3, 2008